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Jehovah's Witnesses and Gay Marriage

This is a very annoying rehashing by the Jehovah's Witnesses of what every other half-wit in this country is saying about gay marriage.

I grew up as a JW and unlike many people who have left the faith, I don't have an axe to grind against the "society" (which is what JWs call The Watchtower). When I came out about four years ago I was set to part ways with the JWs, but the effects still linger with my family. You can blame the link above for the drama.

So, stand-out quote from the article on the "sin" that is homosexuality: "The Bible is clear: God does not approve of or condone homosexual practices. He also disapproves of people who “consent with those practicing them.” (Romans 1:32) And “marriage” cannot give homosexuality a cloak of respectability. God’s direction that “marriage be honorable among all” precludes homosexual unions, which he considers detestable.—Hebrews 13:4."

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Hard to argue with the Bible. So I won't. But I will say that the spinning of old texts to build consensus among fanatics and bigots, REAL bigots who believe that other groups are inferior and not entitled to the same rights as others, is a huge part of today's problems. It's a certainly a big part of mine.

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GRT said...

Au contraire. It is very easy to offer arguments which counter the Bible.

In 1977 a Jesuit named Kosnik led a team of RC theologians who had been commissioned to study sexuality and the Bible. The resulting book is entitled Human Sexuality.

Basically, it places the Old Testament writings in their historical context and determined that proscriptions against what we now call homosexuality was, instead, proscriptions of a cultic nature. The neighboring tribes had male/male prostitution as part of their religious rituals. The Hebrews, unwilling to allow anything into their rituals which existed in rituals of others, banned the practice.

The New Testament is also examined for contemporary clues.

Interesting reading. The book, of course, has been banned by the Vatican, and Kisnik was silenced some few months after its publication. A good Jesuit, he
acknowledged "obedience" to his superiors. I don't think he ever spoke of the book again. Nor, to my knowledge, did any of the other participants in its research and publication.

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Berdo said...

GRT -

Great post - and there's even more to it. For instance, according to the bible - anyone who ever charged interest in their life should be brutally killed. My brother works for American Express - so I also harbor a personal issue with that one.

The problem is that the radical right tends to lift homosexuality out of the Bible and focus only on that supposed transgression - while casually avoiding even discussion of the other activities practiced routinely in daily life that are supposedly sins as well. Andrew Sullivan once mentioned that this practice ultimately makes it clear that it is animus, rather than principle, driving many of the anti-gay arguments.

Have you been watching the political talking head shows lately? Those against gay marriage are sounding ever so desperate these days. They seem to have abandoned most of their arguments and are focusing on the "marriage has always been between a man and a woman" which happens not to be true. Abraham had many wives - so marriage began as between man and many women, for one thing.

But beyond that - if the core argument has become one of simply defending a tradition - then they will lose this debate, they deserve to lose it, and they have exposed themselves as having nothing left in their arsenal but the mobilization of any anti-gay sentiment they can muster in their base. Pretty gross.

soleri said...

I love the cover of that pamphlet. Heaven is day-glo bright and white. A snow-capped mountain, a beautiful meadow, and a picnic! It doesn't get any better.

What is it about most people's sense of faith that they reduce virtually all spiritual struggle to nostalgia about picnics and family fun? Last week, Senator Obama criticized Democrats for failing "to acknowledge the power of faith". Huh? You mean like hating homos because they screw up family picnics with their Guyere and Riesling?

Maybe it's time we give up the pretense that Augustine or Tertullian preside over our inner struggles. No. That struggle is no more complicated than a daydream on the bus. It's about wanting to be with people you like and know. Homos are usually outside that ambit. If you want to parse the Bible, go ahead. But it's really a lot simpler than scriptural exegesis.

James said...

I am so tired of this gay marriage debate. The fact that this has been made a religious issue from the beginning is the reason why the majority of the states don't recognize even civil unions.

If we just made this an issue about equal legal rights and civil unions, we'd be a lot further along. I do believe that the bible is a book of the times and it's comments on homosexuality, charging interest, and eating pork are a bit outdated (I charged my Moo Shoo Pork on a credit card last night. Am I going to hell?).

But in spite of this, can we just work to get civil unions through and not give the right anymore religious platforms to stand on? Christ+ian = followers of Christ, who by the way, never got married, unless you believe the DaVinci code - but that's another debate for another time.

Audrey B. said...

GCL, do you still talk with your family?

GayConservativeLiberal said...

Hi Audrey, thanks for the question..yep, still talk to the family. There are some relatives, though, with whom I don't speak anymore.

ajc said...

Hey GCL -

I just found your blog. Interesting entry about JWs and gay marriage. I'm a gay, former JW myself. Like you, I'm not really interested in digging up anti-JW things, but it's always interesting/amusing to come across JW-related doctrine like this.

-Aaron

tom sheepandgoats said...

On the other hand, the Bible is what it is, and Jehovah's Witnesses seek to represent it. That's all. If you disagree with them, they go away. They don't afterwards seek to force it upon you through legislative and political means, much less through violence.

Would that all churches did no more than distribute literature. In that case, we might all be able to coexist.

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